HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE
Frequently Asked Questions
 

Q. Why is it, when I buy a firearm from a dealer I must fill out the time consuming paperwork for the NICC (National Instant Criminal Check) background check, but I can buy the Kirst Cartridge Konverter® without this nuisance and delay?
A. The Kirst Cartridge Konverter® is not a firearm, it is classified as a firearm accessory and is therefore not subject to firearms requirements. You must be aware, however, that when you install the Kirst Cartridge Konverter® into a black powder revolver (also a non-firearm buy Federal classification), you have created a firearm and must therefore be legally able to possess firearms in accordance with the laws of your community.

Q. Can I use "store bought" ammunition in my Kirst Cartridge Konverter?
A. Yes, The Kirst Cartridge Konverter® is designed to be used in steel framed revolvers with black powder or equivalent ‘cowboy loads’ as provided by manufacturers such as: Black Hills, Ultra Max, 3D, PMC, Zero, Ten-X, Winchester, Cabelas, and many reloaders. Cowboy ammunition must, by SASS (Single Action Shooting Society) definition, be loaded with lead bullets with a powder charge that will not exceed 1000 feet per second velocity.

Q. Are the Kirst Cartridge Konverters Available in stainless steel?
A.No, But currently the Ruger is available from the maker in nickel, But we would be happy to send your Kirst Cartridge Konverter® off and have it nickel plated in a mat finish to closely match the stainless steel revolver. The cost of this service is currently only $50.00

Q. What is the difference between the 1858 Remington and the Remington 1861 Army revolvers?
A. The Terminology "58" Remington is a misnomer, Due to the patent dates on the Remington 1861 Army revolver. It is some times referred to as the " New Model Army ". The term 58 Remington over the years has become the common identification for this cap and ball reproduction revolver.

Q. I Have a 58 Remington but it is only marked "CVA" which Cartridge Konverter® should I use?
A. 58 Remington revolvers Imported by CVA will accept our Uberti Konverter®

Q. I just bought a 58 Remington from Cabela's who is the manufacturer?
A. The 58 Remington steel framed revolvers that Cabela's sells is a Pietta and requires our Pietta Konverter®
      NOTE: The Cattleman Carbine, Sold by Cabela's is manufactured by Uberti

Q. Will you be offering Cartridge Konverters® for other cap and ball revolvers?
A. We have no plans to offer a Konverter for a Colt 60 Army model in .44 cal.
There is a version of the 1873 Colt which is being offered in a cap and ball system our Konverter is NOT offered for this arm and never will be.

GENERAL INFORMATION

*1858 REMINGTON

* 51/61 COLT

 

LOADING PORT INSTRUCTIONS

*1858 REMINGTON

* 51/61 COLT

 

1858 REMINGTON EJECTOR ROD INSTRUCTIONS

WARRANTY and
STATEMENT OF LIABILITY
General Information

Kirst Company Is now manufacturing the safest, quickest, most scientifically advanced Cartridge Konverter® for your cap & ball revolver. You can make this conversion yourself by simply replacing the percussion cylinder with a Kirst Cartridge Konverter®. It is the first true drop in cylinder for reproduction cap & ball revolvers.
* No Permit Needed * No Federal Paperwork * No Waiting Period *
* No Tools Needed * No Gunsmithing Required *
Can be shipped directly to you. The Kirst Cartridge Konverter® is not a firearm. It is an accessory that you install. No tools needed, just drop it in and you have created your own cartridge conversion revolver. , If you can own a firearm, we can deliver a Konverter directly to you without delay.
NOT FOR USE IN BRASS FRAMES!

Kirst Cartridge Konverter® are made in the USA on modern CNC machinery from SAE 4140 tool steel, and proof tested to SAAMI (Small Arms Ammunition Manufacturers Institute) specification by an independent laboratory. Konverters® are manufactured specifically for current manufactured Pietta and Uberti, steel framed, revolvers. A competent gunsmith can fit them to many older revolvers made by other makers.

We do not recommend them for original antique Remington and Colt revolvers. DO NOT use them in brass framed revolvers!

The Kirst Cartridge Konverter® is designed to be used in steel framed revolvers with black powder or equivalent ‘cowboy loads’ as provided by manufacturers such as: Black Hills, Ultra Max, 3D, PMC, Zero, Ten-X, Winchester, Cabelas, and many reloaders.

Cowboy ammunition must, by SASS (Single Action Shooting Society) definition, be loaded with lead bullets with a powder charge that will not exceed 1000 feet per second velocity.

Kirst Cartridge Konverter® for .44 caliber 1858 Remington, New Army Model, reproduction revolvers.

The .44 caliber percussion revolver barrel is actually .45 caliber as its bore dimensions are the same as the present day .45 caliber at a nominal .451 inch diameter. Therefore the barrel of your .44 caliber percussion revolver will handily accept lead bullets in the 45 Colt and 45 ACP cartridges.

Caution: .44 and .45 caliber cylinders must NEVER BE INSTALLED IN A .36 caliber revolver!

Attention: These Konverters are NOT TO BE USED IN BRASS FRAME revolvers!

.45 Colt - Safety Cylinder: Precision manufactured, in the USA, from 4140 Tool Steel, a commonly used barrel and cylinder material used throughout the firearms industry. Safe carry position is with five loaded rounds in the cylinder and the hammer resting with the firing pin down on a plugged chamber. Another company offers a 6-shot .45 Colt cylinder. In order to chamber six rounds in the available space they tip the cartridge to allow rim clearance thus causing the bullet to enter the forcing cone at an angle. $249.95          < Go to the ordering page >


Remington Loading and Installation Instructions

1. Place hammer in the half-cocked position. Extract the cylinder pin and remove the percussion cylinder from the revolver.

2. Lift the Konverter® Ring from the cartridge cylinder and insert cartridges. Use only black powder or equivalent loads!

3. Place the Konverter® Ring on the cylinder and Install the Konverter® assembly into the revolver with the firing pin at the 12 o’clock position, in line with the hammer nose. Replace the cylinder pin.

Do not use in brass-framed revolvers! Note: The revolver can be changed back and forth from cap & ball to cartridge at will. The.45 Colt cylinder is intended to be carried with five rounds, with the hammer down entrapping the firing pin in the safety chamber. Position the revolver so you can visibly check the safety position by looking down at the top strap. You will see half a rim on either side of the top strap. Now, holding the cylinder with your off hand, let the hammer down gently, causing the firing pin to protrude through the Konverter® Ring and engage the safty chamber. Carefully check to make sure the firing pin is now down in a safe carry position.

THE NEW PORTED KIRST CARTRIDGE KONVERTER WITH LOADING GATE

ported Konverter ring and ejector rod assembly as a kit with instructions $394.95.  < Go to the ordering page >

 

The ejector rod assembly may be purchased separately for $100.00
 < Go to the ordering page >

See - Instructions for creating a Loading Port in a reproduction Remington percussion revolver recoil shield.
See - Instructions for notching the Remington Loading Lever to retain Ejector Rod flag.

Kirst Cartridge Konverter® for .36 caliber 1851 & 1861 Colt Navy, reproduction revolvers.


.38 Long Colt -Six Shot: The .36 caliber percussion revolver barrel has a bore diameter of .375 inches. Today’s .38 caliber cartridges are loaded with .357-inch diameter bullets. To attain accuracy with a modern .38 caliber cartridge, in your reproduction Navy revolver, you must shoot soft lead .38 spec.hollow base wad cutter , .38 colt hollow base or .38 Colt healed ammunition. The soft lead hollow base bullet will “bump up” to the .375-inch bore diameter and shoot very accurately.

The chambers will actually accept .38 Special hollow base wadcutter cartridges, however the cylinder is too short and is not intended for use of the standard .38 special cartridge.

The cylinder has been made this way so that the shooter can use commercially loaded hollow base, soft lead bulleted ammunition, it is not intended for the regular .38 special cartridge. $289.95     < Go to the ordering page >

SEE THE NEW .38 Colt Hollow base ammunition in our Ammunition page

Colt Loading and Installation Instructions
1. Place hammer in the half cocked position. Remove the barrel assembly and cylinder.
2. Lift Konverter® Ring from the cartridge cylinder and insert cartridges. Use only black powder or equivalent loads!
3. Place Konverter® Ring on cylinder and install on cylinder pin with the firing pin at the 12 o’clock position, in line with the hammer nose.
4. Re-install barrel assembly. Do not use in brass framed revolvers!
Note: The revolver can be changed back and forth from cap & ball to cartridge at will.
SEE - Instructions for creating a Loading Port in a reproduction Colt percussion revolver recoil shield.


Instructions for creating a Loading Port in a reproduction Colt percussion revolver recoil shield.

Remove barrel assembly, cylinder, trigger guard, back strap & grips and all internal parts. Cut out breech template and glue to breech face of revolver with rubber cement, or any easily removable adhesive. Take care to center the template over the breech with the flat square against the bottom of the frame.Securely clamp the portion of the cylinder pin protruding past the front of the frame, in a bench vise, so that the frame is lying flat with the right recoil shield up. Using a Dremmel tool with the large (approximately 5/8”) diameter, course, drum sander, carefully grind away the loading port, grinding to the “U” line on the template on the breech face. You should have a few extra, course, sanding drums available so you can replace the drum as it wears and cuts less efficiently. Always wear eye protection when grinding! A slow in-out motion with light pressure on the grinder/ sander will do the best and quickest job of removing steel. This job will take approximately 2 to 3 hours if you stop occasionally to let the work cool. When you have the material removed to the line on the template, install the cartridge cylinder and Konverter Ring and insert NEW, EMPTY cartridge cases into each chamber, checking for sufficient rim ejection clearance in the ported area. If rims hang up, remove the cylinder and very gradually grind a little more material from the port. Recheck cartridge rim clearance. When you have sufficient rim clearance: replace the course drum with a large diameter, fine, drum in the Dremmel tool and finish polishing the port. This will take only a few strokes of the fine sanding drum. You may now use a small; half round, fine toothed file, or similar abrasive device, to carefully remove the burrs and sharp edges. Polish the bright metal with 400 grit sand cloth and 4-0 steel wool and re-blue the exposed metal with your choice of cold blue.


Instructions for creating a Loading Port in a reproduction Remington percussion revolver recoil shield.

Remove: loading lever assembly, cylinder pin & cylinder, grip panels, trigger guard and all internal parts. Wrap several layers of masking tape (or duct tape) around the barrel and forward end of revolver frame, ahead of cylinder opening. This is to protect the finish of your revolver while the work is in progress. Cut out breech template and glue to breech face of revolver with rubber cement, or any easily removable adhesives. Take care to center the cylinder pin hole and square the flat with the bottom of the frame. Securely clamp the barrel in a bench vise on the top and bottom barrel flats, so that the frame is lying flat with the right recoil shield up. Using a Dremmel tool with the large (approximately 5/8”) diameter, course, drum sander, carefully grind away the loading port, grinding to the “U” line on the template on the breech face. You should have a few extra, course, sanding drums available so you can replace the drum as it wears and cuts less efficiently. Always wear eye protection when grinding! A slow in-out motion with light pressure on the grinder/ sander will do the best and quickest job of removing steel. This job will take approximately 2 to 3 hours if you stop occasionally to let the work cool. When you have the material removed to the line on the template, install the cartridge cylinder and insert NEW, EMPTY cartridge cases into each chamber, checking for sufficient rim ejection clearance in the ported area. If rims hang up, remove the cylinder and very gradually grind a little more material from the port. Recheck cartridge rim clearance. When you have sufficient rim clearance: replace the course drum with a large diameter, fine, drum in the Dremmel tool and finish polishing the port. This will take only a few strokes of the fine sanding drum. You may now use a small; half round, fine toothed file, or similar abrasive device, to carefully remove the burrs and sharp edges. Polish the bright metal with 400 grit sand cloth and 4-0 steel wool and re-blue the exposed metal with your choice of cold blue.




Instructions for notching the Remington Loading Lever to retain Ejector Rod flag.
Remove the Loading Lever Assembly and Cylinder Pin. Install the Cartridge Konverter ring and cylinder, then install the new Ejector Rod & Cylinder Pin Assembly which will replace the original Cylinder Pin. Replace the Loading Lever Assembly. Fully withdraw the Ejector Rod and rotate the flag against the bottom flat of the barrel. Gently close the Loading Lever on the Ejector Rod flag and mark the flag position on the Loading Lever with a marking pen or machinist’s scribe. With a 4-inch, fine toothed, square file, remove a notch in the loading lever at the flag position. The notch need be only deep enough to allow clearance for the Ejector Rod flag with the Loading Lever in closed position. Carefully remove the burrs and sharp edges with the square file. Polish the bright metal with 400 grit sand cloth and 4-0 steel wool and re-blue the exposed metal with your choice of cold blue..
WARRANTY
We will replace any manufacturing defect. We reserve the right to replace defective product with new. No returns will be accepted without a Return Authorization on the package and all sales are considered final after 15 days unless otherwise agreed through warranty arrangement determined on a case by case basis. For warranty return instructions contact your dealer. This product is NOT to be used in brass framed revolvers!

CAUTION
Read the following before installation and use!
Check your revolver thoroughly for mechanical condition and bore obstructions before installing a Cartridge Konverter™ therein. If you are uncertain have it checked by a gunsmith. Make certain that the caliber of the barrel is correct for the cartridge. USE ONLY Black Powder or equivalent loads; use of loads other than these will void all warranties, expressed or
implied. Discharging firearms in poorly ventilated areas, cleaning firearms or handling ammunition may result in exposure to lead and other substances known to cause birth defects, reproductive harm and other serious physical injury. Have adequate ventilation at all times. Wash hands thoroughly after exposure.


STATEMENT OF LIABILITY

The Kirst’s Patent Cartridge Konverter™ is classified as a FIREARM ACCESSORY and is sold with the express understanding that we assume no liability for its resale, unsafe handling or improper use under local laws and regulations. Kirst Company and its distributors assumes no responsibility for physical injury or property damage resulting from either intentional or accidental discharge, or for the function of any device subjected to influences beyond their control, and will honor no claims which may result from careless handling, unauthorized adjustment, alteration, modification, defective or improper ammunition and loading components, corrosion or neglect. The purchase, receipt and use of this product implies understanding of, agreement with and acceptance of this Statement of Liability.